Someone find me a place to get barbed wire here in the states ...

Posted: 9/23/ 9:24:38 PM EDT Posted: 9/23/ 9:33:07 PM EDT [#4] Posted: 9/23/ 9:38:49 PM EDT [#6] Posted: 9/23/ 9:47:11 PM EDT [#10] Posted: 9/23/ 9:49:23 PM EDT [#11] Quote HistoryQuoted:


Oh? What am I looking for?View Quote
Concertina wire would be the term I'd start with, but I'm not sure how easy it will be to differentiate between the barbed and razor wire versions.

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Looks like you beat me to it. Posted: 9/23/ 9:52:39 PM EDT [#13] Quoted:
...particularly barbed wire as pictured below:

https://www.razorbarbedwirefence.com/img/clip-concertina-barbed-wire.jpg

Clipped 50' long (when deployed) spools that are 33 to 36" in diameter barbed wire.  Not razor wire.

I'll add a preemptive "Yeah yeah, sure, just get razor wire" here for those who want me to transport razor wire all over the country for APC training events.  The answer is no.  

Preference is US made wire as pictured above, followed by foreign made from an allied country.  

First person to find me a source gets a cookie.  And an APC bandana.View Quote
What about concertina wire? (not razor wire)  What is APC?  Armored Personal Carrier, like a M113 is what comes to mind? Posted: 9/23/ 9:57:25 PM EDT [#15] Posted: 9/23/ 9:59:56 PM EDT [#16] Swing by the electric utility yard and see if you could pick up an empty spool, use it to form and clip two strand barbed wire into larger coils?

Posted: 9/23/ 10:01:02 PM EDT [#19] Dad and I looked into barbed wire. Couple hundred bucks will buy you a satisfactory fraction of a mile of the stuff at Fleet Farm, as of about 2-3 years ago. Posted: 9/23/ 10:05:35 PM EDT [#24] If you can't find it, it would be easy to make that with some local farm boys and some jigs and hog nose rings and a couple of sets of hog nose ring pliers. Posted: 9/23/ 10:10:04 PM EDT [#25] If you don’t want to try to DIY and have money to burn it seems like these gentlemen could help you:

https://perimetersecurityproducts.com

(No affiliation here, just found them through some searching) Posted: 9/23/ 10:11:43 PM EDT [#26] If just for training, skip the barb and the razor and just get high-tensile.  

It comes in the larger coils and stiffer than normal barb.

If negative feedback is required - a solar powered energizer will get the "not ideal to touch" point across.


Posted: 9/23/ 10:13:35 PM EDT [#27] Quote HistoryQuoted:
Swing by the electric utility yard and see if you could pick up an empty spool, use it to form and clip two strand barbed wire into larger coils?

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I was thinking the same thing. Respool it on a larger reel, and if it still wants to retain the smaller coil shape, maybe heat it with a torch until it takes a set to the larger spool size.

I have no idea if it would work or not, but it may be worth a try. Posted: 9/23/ 10:16:37 PM EDT [#29] Try calling stephens pipe and steel.  If anyone could find it, they could

Other than that, just take some tension wire and make it hot.  It will be easier Posted: 9/23/ 10:17:10 PM EDT [#30] Posted: 9/23/ 10:19:22 PM EDT [#32] Posted: 9/23/ 10:19:56 PM EDT [#33] I still need to go see about the skedco, Robin Sage is this weekend.

If I get back from vacation sat I might stop by there to see what they have.

Problem being I think all we have is concertina wire.

Busy right now


Posted: 9/23/ 10:25:34 PM EDT [#35] Quoted:
...particularly barbed wire as pictured below:

https://www.razorbarbedwirefence.com/img/clip-concertina-barbed-wire.jpg

Clipped 50' long (when deployed) spools that are 33 to 36" in diameter barbed wire.  Not razor wire.

I'll add a preemptive "Yeah yeah, sure, just get razor wire" here for those who want me to transport razor wire all over the country for APC training events.  The answer is no.  

Preference is US made wire as pictured above, followed by foreign made from an allied country.  

First person to find me a source gets a cookie.  And an APC bandana.View Quote
Any local farm supply stores nearby?  Pretty easy to find around here. Posted: 9/23/ 10:31:33 PM EDT [#37] When I helped fence, we called it security wire.

The outfit I worked with did lots of electric substations and cell towers, and they all got three rows of it around the top.

It had longer barbs than ag wire, but not quite concertina length.

Eldridge fence co. Great Bend Ks. was supplier Posted: 9/23/ 10:32:33 PM EDT [#38] Posted: 9/23/ 10:34:49 PM EDT [#40] the wire pictured appears to be "gaucho" barbed wire like listed in the link to the add below your original post.

Look at farm supply stores for gaucho, or other brand high tensile 4 pt barbed wire.

It is lighter weight but just as strong as the heavy 4 pt, but being high tensile it will probably keep the coil that you are looking for better.


Posted: 9/23/ 10:39:03 PM EDT [#41] Just so I can understand where you are now... Have you tried contacting any of the US cwire manufacturers about making a run with barbs instead? Posted: 9/23/ 10:39:57 PM EDT [#42] Posted: 9/23/ 10:44:29 PM EDT [#43] Glamos wire products in Hugo Minnesota used to make it. But I am pretty sure since they were bought out they stopped making it.

They used to supply a lot of distributors.

You could try calling them tomorrow. I know they do custom work as well.

https://glamoswire.com/ Posted: 9/23/ 10:53:36 PM EDT [#44] While I understand properly employed three strand C-wire is an effective obstacle, proper concertina is not readily available in most communities. Given this context, perhaps you may consider improvising obstacles created with regular wire? Tanglefoot, improvised knife rest obstacles and apron fences are options. Participants would gain knowledge in these different methods and have an understanding how to employ and the time it takes to emplace the obstacles.

The materials for these are available almost everywhere and are relatively inexpensive. Participants would be able to source in their local AO if needed.

You may already cover all of this, if so, disregard. Posted: 9/23/ 10:54:47 PM EDT [#45] Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think this is what you're looking for.

USGI Concertina Wire

View QuoteI'd love to have a length or 2 of that stuff.  Homeless people keep using a piece of my property as a path.  I think that, some bamboo seed and miracle-gro would be a good area denial combo.

Is FM 5-15 the bible, or is there a better text to learn from? Posted: 9/23/ 11:07:04 PM EDT [#47] Quote HistoryQuoted:
whats the cheapest/best place to get C-wire?View Quote

IDK about cheapest or best, but I have considered a pallet from here. You will also need some tall stakes and regular wire to employ it ideally.

I ordered a roll from amazon. It was passable, but I would go with the stuff I linked.

Typically used to protect military installations, concertina differs from barbed wire as it has a double spiral and very sharp razor blades as opposed to pointed barbs. Supplied in individual rolls in a cardboard box, once opened creates a 60 cm (approx.) spiral spring effect (28 spirals) stretching out to a length of 8 – 10 metres. Heavy galvanized (275 grams/zinc per sq metre) core wire 2.5 mm diameter, razor blade 0.5 mm , breaking strain 785 kg.

Goto Kuojiu to know more.

Concertina wire is a true intruder deterrent and quicker to install than traditional barbed wire.

If you are looking for more details, kindly visit Concertina Razor Wire.

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